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Ideas for and problems with setting up a garden share scheme

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  • Started 1 year ago by csquirrel
  • Latest reply from Rachel Pearcey
  1. Since we started our garden share scheme in Brighton & Hove (which is called Grow Your Neighbour's Own) a number of people from around the country have contacted me to ask for advice on how we got going... so I thought I'd start a thread here to which people can reply with other questions and answers which can be shared with everyone...

    The details of how we set up our garden share scheme here in Brighton are pretty much laid out on this page on the Transition Town Totnes website:
    http://totnes.transitionnetwork.org/gardenshare/startupscheme

    This page sets out almost exactly what we did, mainly because I had a long conversation with Lou in Totnes before we did ours... I think she wrote the page afterwards so that she wouldn't have to keep repeating herself...! We also use Google Maps to keep track of where all the garden owners and gardeners live (just for our own use, the map is not publicly viewable).

    There's only a couple more things to add to her page, namely that we found that setting up a website where people can email in their details proved very effective (see our website here: http://grow.transitionbrightonandhove.org.uk)... but the website on its own is not enough, because the most important thing is matching up people with the same expectations from the scheme. There will be all levels of gardening experience amongst the gardeners, from beginner to experienced, and this needs matching with what the owners are expecting, as well as matching by location, times when access is available, how much time gardeners have available, etc.

    As to legal/security issues: we meet all of the gardeners personally and check a personal reference for all of them. We don't ask for CRB checks, but if a garden owner requests this, many of the gardeners already have a CRB check, so we just match them with a gardener who has. We've also taken out Public Liability Insurance for the gardeners in case of an accident/damage in an owner's garden (we've got a small grant). But generally we want to just pair people up and let them get on with it – we provide them with a list of guideline questions to discuss before they agree to the pairing...

    There are other practicalities to think about if you are in a city like we are in Brighton and Hove: namely that the gardeners will generally be living in flats near the centre of town, and the garden owners on the outskirts... so you have to find out if some gardeners are willing to cycle/get the bus to get to gardens (we've tried to avoid people using cars, but we might change this sometime soon so that we can match more people up), and promote this by saying they get the pick of the gardens if they do...

    I have a number of the documents that we use (and there are others on the Totnes garden share at the link above): an info sheet about the scheme, the guidelines I mentioned above, the certificate we ask the pairings to sign once they've agreed to be matched together, and an example of the garden owner details sheet that we show potential gardeners when they are picking a scheme; as well as the procedures we follow when visiting garden owners or gardeners. If anyone would like copies of these please email me at grow_info*at*transitionbrightonandhove.org.uk

    Please add any other questions and ideas about garden share schemes on this post so that everyone can see them

    regards

    Chris

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. Thanks for posting this, Chris. I really appreciate seeing the nuts-and-bolts of getting these kinds of schemes going and I've been sharing it with http://transitionus.ning.com and our local Transition Cotati group.

    I'm wondering if you could share the story of what your experience has been so far; I see you began at the end of 2008. For instance, how has the outreach/marketing part been? How many people have you gotten to participate so far? Things like that.

    Thanks again for bringing this!

    Judith

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. Hi Judith – the response to the scheme so far has been very positive... we didn't want it to get too big too quickly as there are only 3 of us working on it, so the first thing we did was just ask everyone we knew who ran email relevant email newsletters to include details of the scheme starting there. We got 40 garden owners and gardeners just from that.

    One of the most successful things we did as far as making people aware of the scheme was to keep a blog of our progress on the Transition Brighton and Hove forum – from that I had lots of people emailing me to say how could they help, as well as wanting to sign up.

    So now we're onto the stage of putting up posters around the city, and doing radio interviews to promote the scheme further. And with a network of people connected by the internet putting up posters and distributing flyers can be done on a much larger scale by emailing PDFs to all those who've offered to help, no one minds printing out just a few posters.

    Plus we've just started to ask the gardeners and owners for whom we haven't yet found a match if they wouldn't mind putting up posters as well, hinting that they'll be much more likely to he paired with someone in their area if they help promote the scheme...

    One other thing we've just started doing is approaching the owners of larger plots of land to tell them about the scheme. I contacted the vicar of the church nearest to where I live, and we now have available the land around the church for growing vegetables on...

    It's difficult to know how big the scheme might get, I don't know how many people in the city are actually interested in growing their own food... but if we can just reach all the people who would like to have an allotment but are on the waiting list that will be something...

    great to hear similar things are happening in the US...

    regards

    Chris

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. DaveDann
    Member

    notice that this initiative is taking place:
    http://www.landshare.net/
    This has become as very fashionable area - Transition Initiatives are competing with celebrity chefs.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. mandydean
    Member

    Hi Chris,
    We are looking at starting a scheme like this in Machynlleth.
    I just wanted to ask a couple of questions. You said there are 3 of you working on this. Are you all doing it on a voluntary basis or is anyone in a paid post? Following on from that - how much time are you devoting to the project?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. Hi Mandy – we are all working on a voluntary basis, though one of us does all the admin and as it's taking off we're looking into the idea of how might pay one person out of the grants we've been getting...

    I'd say the admin takes up about 10 hours a week, then the other two of us spend a few hours each a week on it as well...

    regards

    Chris

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. StephHowlett
    Member

    Hi Chris

    We are wondering about setting up a scheme in Sheffield. Could you explain how you set up the public liability insurance and how much it costs?

    Best wishes

    Steph

    Posted 7 months ago #
  8. Hi Steph,

    In Dorchester the Garden Share scheme insurance is covered by 'South West Allotment Association'. There may be a similar thing in your area? Further info & FAQ's here: http://transitiontowndorchester.org/Projects/Gardenshare/gardenshare.html

    Posted 7 months ago #
  9. Hi Steph – sorry to only just reply, I don't look at this thread that often...

    we have our Public Liability Insurance through BTCV (http://www2.btcv.org.uk), who organise insurance for voluntary groups... here's a breakdown of the costs:

    Up to 500 project days (eg Up to 10 individuals) = £118.13
    Up to 1000 project days (eg Up to 20 individuals) = £219.45
    Up to 2000 project days (eg Up to 40 individuals) = £291.06
    Above this number refer to BTCV.

    * If you presume individuals visit gardens 50 times a year
    ** Excludes use of any power tools

    On top of that add:

    Admin fee: £37.50
    Community Network Membership fee: £35.00
    Upgrade to £10m cover (optional) : £59.06

    So when we first started we just had the 500 project days insurance, and as we get bigger we'll get more and more insurance...

    Having said that, we're currently wondering if we should renew our insurance for this year – some people have suggested that insurance is not completely necessary for a matching scheme such as garden sharing, since we're not actually involved in any of the gardening, only in matching people which doesn't itself carry any risks... once you've matched the pairs up, the individuals are then responsible for themselves, not the scheme, because the scheme doesn't really have anything to do with the gardening.

    On the other hand, if you do take out insurance, it looks quite good on grant applications... but I wouldn't say it's absolutely necessary...

    Posted 6 months ago #
  10. just thought as a number of people have asked I'd put a link to a page of all the documents we use on our scheme in Brighton:
    http://grow.transitionbrightonandhove.org.uk/docs.html

    Chris

    Posted 6 months ago #
  11. Our co-ordinator (Liz) has just started putting up 'Plots Available' PDF'S here: http://transitiontowndorchester.org/Projects/Gardenshare/gardenshare.html

    Also, currently has a temporary display in the town library to explain about Gardenshare things.
    A gardenshare seedling swap is going to coincide with our AGM in May, along with a picnic (unless it rains). If it does rain it'll probably be a picnic in the pub.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  12. following on from the post above about insurance, just to let other people thinking of starting up schemes that for Grow Your Neighbour's Own in Brighton we did not renew our Public Liability Insurance in our second year. Mainly because we were advised that as we were only making the introductions and not actually supervising any of the gardening, there was nothing we were particularly liable for since we were only introducing people to each other...

    Posted 5 months ago #
  13. Rachel Pearcey
    Member

    Hello, I've just joined and wondered if anything further had happened with the garden share scheme in Kingston.

    Posted 5 months ago #

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