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  • Started 10 months ago by mudpuppy
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  1. mudpuppy
    Member

    A lot of us have powerful things to teach and share. What if we created in our local communities systems where we teach other the knowledge we each have - sustainablity, somatics, spirituality, community, facilitation, local currencies etc. These systems would in effect be a kind of grassroots localised university.
    One can then set down some guidelines about what these universities follow, and other communities can replicate these universities. This self-replication is similar to how the transition town movement spreads. There a number of guidelines that if you fit you can then also become a transition town. What you do in your town is then posted to a website and other towns can learn from your town.
    So a grassroots open university could have something like these guidelines
    1. must have a minimum of 7 people leading different courses
    2. have a minimum of 20 hours a month of courses offered
    3. course content must be things that are good for the planet, good for people, good for community
    4. courses are participatory(not just listening to lectures) and have an action-learning component.
    There can be a grassroots university website which then posts what each community is teaching. So each local university learns from all the other universities in the network things they could do to work better, teach better, spread word about itself better etc.

    ...
    These grassroots universities would be synergestic with the town transition movement. The universities could teach a lot of the paradigms, know-how, sustainability knowledge that is need to help towns make the transition.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  2. DaveDann
    Member

    Maybe I post too much to this forum but I need to make a reply here... I can't speak for other parts of the country but I feel that, in Devon, we already have the resources that you are talking about. We have Devon Assn of Smallholders, Devon Rural Skills Trust, BTCV, Orchards Link, Orchards Live, North Devon Beekeepers, Yarner Trust and so on and on. I think of them as the 'Rural Polytechnic of Devon'. In Devon alone there are more courses to be attended and more skills to learn than I could ever use in a lifetime. The need for a central organisation is debatable. These organisations are now advertising in each others newsletters. In my opinion the skills are 'out there' if you seriously want them.
    What makes we spit and fume about the Transition Movement is its gross sectarianism. Popped in amongst the suggested requirements for an initiating group is that of attending a 'permaculture design course'. Repeatedly the great and the good in Transition bow and scrape to anything with 'permaculture' in the name. Mention 'apples' and it will be related to 'agroforestry', yet in Devon the two orchards groups and others like DRST have been going for decades and are COMMUNITY BASED organisations with local knowledge. I think you may be better off looking around you at existing organisations. Maybe their main failing is lack of marketing effort. My feeling is that trying to create new organisations is 1) pointless hard work 2)the road to useless bureaucracy 3)anti existing community organisations. Is it really necessary for people in Transition to set up their own organisations in every sphere to compete with the peoples existing organisations? (To an 'old git' like me it reminds me of the attitude of the Socialist Workers Party to the rest of the socialist movement around 1980 but I don't suppose that will resonate here). Here's hoping these opinions don't offend...

    Posted 10 months ago #
  3. millymop
    Member

    Great to hear a bit of proper cumudgeon on a bright spring afternoon DaveDann! Don't ever stop! Sad to say though, up North where it's boring and slow we could only dream of such a wealth of grassroots organisations and opportunities - maybe this is why Transition thrives so down in the South West.

    Anyway Muddypup, have a look at schoolofeverything.com - more or less what you have described and possibly soon to be awash with Transitiony teachers and learners I believe.

    Posted 10 months ago #
  4. millymop
    Member

    sorry - Mudpuppy!

    Posted 10 months ago #
  5. mudpuppy
    Member

    I think one of the reasons the transition town idea is so good is because its a network. When someone does something in one town it spreads to other towns. Towns can learn from each other. That way whatever things you figure out that are successful to transition your town do not have to just stay in your town.

    The benefit of a grassroots university network is the same. Each university can learn from other universities. So for instance whatever is happening that is good in Devon can spread to Boulder, Totnes, Australian towns etc.... And whatever good ideas that are happening in the global network of universities can be used in Devon.

    Posted 10 months ago #
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    What makes we spit and fume about the Transition Movement is its gross sectarianism. Popped in amongst the suggested requirements for an initiating group is that of attending a 'permaculture design course'. Repeatedly the great and the good in Transition bow and scrape to anything with 'permaculture' in the name. Mention 'apples' and it will be related to 'agroforestry', yet in Devon the two orchards groups and others like DRST have been going for decades and are COMMUNITY BASED organisations with local knowledge.
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    Fully understand where you are coming from there Dave!

    A very important lesson that I have learned in my time as a Transition SG member is that in general, people are fairly to very conservative in nature and anything new needs a lot of introduction (or, in the commercial world, marketing). The whole idea of Transition/Peak Oil is vast enough for starters - it is a huge concept to get one's head around, without adding on any other tags/jargon/procedures that need to be digested.

    The biggest challenge that anything like this has is, therefore, to take it out into the wider community, and make it a strongly appealing idea - beyond the environmentally/horticulturally/agriculturally aware and committed minorities - well under 25% of the population of any given town/village/city and in many cases a mere fringe. If the Transition Movement succeeds in accomplishing this, it will be the first sector of the environmental movement to have ever done so.

    You know the sort of people I want to convert to the idea? The sort who currently refer to environmentalists as "tree-huggers" or "yoghourt-weavers" - but who, outside of their political prejudices, are often skilled and highly practical people. Now there's a challenge!!

    Cheers - John

    Posted 10 months ago #
  7. millymop
    Member

    So, the 'rural poly of Devon' - how has that developed? How could similar self-organising networks be encouraged elsewhere (if that's not too much of a contradiction in terms).

    Regarding the 'unconverted' challenge - is it simply a PR problem? and what about the other vast sections of society that Transition is currently failing to reach?

    IMO, this is THE challenge for the movement - is it going to raise its head again and again on this forum and similar places and then be left hanging and fade away, or are the people who take it seriously going to grab the bull by the horns?

    Awkward so-and-sos of all persuasions have a chance to force the issue on the new Great Reskilling Wiser Earth space: http://www.wiserearth.org/group/greatreskillingUK

    Posted 8 months ago #
  8. Re "Great Reskilling" Wiser Earth group: potentially a hugely important topic, so such a pity that (yet again for tt movement stuff) it doesn't look truly open. "Open To Apply, Private" more of the feel of some sort of central government bureaucracy? Who do you guys think you are? "Awkward so-and-sos of all persuasions" (who of course can contribute much to a rich diversity of challenging, provocative and insightful stuff) will tend to prefer fora that are genuinely open, so (yet again) don't you run the risk of just cosy little chats amongst the already converted, and including only those who you think you'll be comfortable getting along with? Don't you guys ever read some of the concerns that get put up in your own forums about social inclusion or whatever it gets called here?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  9. millymop
    Member

    I really sympathise with how you feel - like having to knock on your own front door.

    I don't understand why the discussions can't at least be viewed by non-members - very unfriendly! I wonder if it's a mistake in the privacy settings (the previous wiserearth group, for the web project, was viewable).

    It is however really easy to sign in, and the 'wiserearth' network is quite amazing - incredible experience and expertise from committed people worldwide. I think they ask people to join before posting to promote networking, and also to ensure participants have a degree of commitment to the conversations etc taking place. The other big advantage over a forum like this, is that you can co-create documents. Beyond hot air!

    I really hope you do join - because it is, as you say, very important.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  10. Hi millymop, thanks for your kind reply. I doubt the lack of openness is anything much to do with WiserEarth though. Have myself been a member of WE for a little while now, but even when signed in this group is still private and you have to apply. Whoever has set this up asks applicants to a say a few words about why they would like to join, but gives no information about who they themselves are or any background.

    Whether or not the lack of openness suggests a view of education (or transition) as something rarified, something separate from the rest of life, something us mere mortals can't (be allowed to) handle, the apparent lack of understanding of even the basic concept of reciprocity would not seem to be auspicious, or am I missing something (apart form tolerance, patience, diplomacy, etc?)

    Posted 8 months ago #

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