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Collaborative design methodology approach: Structured documents...

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  1. In order to assist the design process I'd like to propose that we work with and discuss structured documents. The problems with forums (like we are using) are:
    * Important information gets lost very quickly when there's lots of input.
    * There is no quick overview of what has been said over the years.

    So, we need to have a wiki or some other document centric approach to building the requirements and, in fact, everything we are discussing.

    Discussions on this forum should be about documents. Documents will contain lists of requirements as suggested by all members, etc. Then there'll be a voting system (or call or meeting) to establish priorities.

    We have to work together not just chat together and that means working on documents where information doesn't get lost. I hope people can see that this road leads to sanity...

    Cheers Daniel

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. @daniel agree! forum info gets lost. wiki info gets organised.

    problem is, your suggestion may just get lost ;)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. Well, there's a short term answer to the problem of this idea getting lost: keep posting a response so the thread stays at the top of the "new messages" queue! ;-)

    This is a problem for all sections of the Transition Movement. I see that some people are using Google Docs. So, the need is real now.

    Perhaps the first thing we need to do is transition the current PmWiki and bbPress systems to one CMS with "single sign on". Thus making it real easy for people to discuss and comment on documents that can be collaboratively altered.

    Plus we do need to have document formatting, citing and layout standards so that all the documents and comments can work together. Tracking changes and who's said what about what is important too in order to get a sense of what's important.

    Cheers Daniel

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. ***from email discussion 24/10/08 4:54pm *** see http://transitiontowns.org/forum/topic.php?id=204&replies=9#post-904 for subsequent post from same discussion.

    On the issue of facilitating this project I think we need something a bit more structured and focused than the wiki page. I advocate a dedicated project website that will provide that structure out of which the project can grow and satisfy some key requirements for a sustainable project: user engagement, transparency, collaboration and flexibility, decision making, conflict resolution and a reward and recognition system.

    Indeed this site should include a Wiki, maybe as a process to create the documentation; but also a hosted irc channel or link to one, forum, archive and document repository into which all the extensive work, minuted meetings already done and pdf'd by some of us can be put. In addition, we will need to also consider a version control system, licenses & legality (for software and data) and an issue tracker, which in the early stages may be used as a tool in the evaluation process as well as a user engagement tool.

    These are necessary items, longterm at least. For whatever the shape the 'community' takes in developing this solution and however the character of that solution plays out, whether it is a fully coded by us or bits of other projects glued together, we will need the central reference point and foundation to document and explain it. Even so, as Gary and a few others have pointed out in earlier posts, it would be beneficial if our 'stages' ran concurrently to feedback into each other, which ultimately will be happening anyway as the platform develops an we respond to user feedback, testing and contributions.

    This project is not going to end with a website platform either, however complicated. In many ways we are seeing and taking part in the emergence of a new open development platform that will encompass a lot more tt aearliernd lccn activity than what is traditionally considered to be open source (whatever that might be). There is a lot of expertise and, it seems, considerable interest from environmentally and ethically charged communities and those resources and fascinations will be important to maintain.

    Beyond the site then is the maintenance and management of the accumulating knowledge into new and consumable forms e.g. transition guides; some kind of social monetisation of that knowledge e.g. evangelising - marketing, feedback and contributions - product development; dynamic logging and responses to requests for technical and knowledge specific assistance, e.g real time and personal chat box with contributors, facilitators and moderators. Facilitating the ecology of these workflows will require a grassroots user driven, open, self reflexive, and sustainable solution and for that: user engagement, transparency, collaboration and flexibility, decision making, conflict resolution and a reward and recognition system are all key.

    So for the sustainability and longevity of this project we need to put in place the enabling factors to support it. I think that is the forming of a dedicated site, and if enough of us agree maybe we can apportion some of our next meeting towards organising to this end.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. robertcheeseman
    Member

    Hi everyone

    I've been watching and mulling over these forums for a while and thought I would make a small contribution for what it's worth.

    I'd like to echo the sentiments about the importance of more structure and formality around this project, particularly relating to the requirements capture. In fact my belief is that this should apply to the process of actually capturing, analysing, formalising and managing the requirements, and not just to the documents etc in which they end up. Reading the forums, I get the impression that there are lots of good ideas relating to requirements (and, indeed, to solutions) but they don't give the sense that they are supported by the formality so important to actually understanding what is required. (I read today that £273m-worth of public sector IT projects have been binned in the past 5 years, probably because "the government has not thought enough about what the IT project was for before getting started". Different sector but relevant all the same).

    I'm quite new to the Transition movement but have been slowly transitioning my family over the last 5 years and have recently become involved with our newly-formed Transition Town steering group. I'm also new to this type of social / community IT project. However I do have considerable experience of implementing software systems and, more recently, of defining and justifying IT-enabled change in organisations. (Incidentally predominantly in the publice sector but well clear of the projects above!).

    So if I can help, I'm keen to do so. In fact until I find my next paid assignment (and beyond to some degree), I'm willing to give some of my time on a voluntary basis to assist.

    Cheers

    Rob Cheeseman

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. This project is definitely forming some significant interest and I'm sure that there are more who are also following quietly.
    If we are to coordinate this i think that we need to put forward a time to meet virtually or otherwise. Suggestions please, also is anyone absolutely not available some evenings and weekends?

    Posted 1 year ago #

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